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And so it felt like something just so far from me that I couldn't wrap myself around seeing myself ever in anything like that.ДЄnd then later in life, when I discovered my sexuality, I still didn't feel necessarily gay, as in the way the mainstream culture presents it. And I just didn't see a lot of Blackness in that, and I didn't see a lot of my culture or anything that looked like anything I grew up around.

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So when I was growing up and I'm learning about what lesbians are through media and TV and what gay is, it's - for me, what I saw was a lot of, like, Lilith Fair lesbians and a lot of, you know, show-tunes-quoting dudes. And just like most mainstream representations of culture in America, it lacks Black identity. JAY: Well, when I say gay culture, I mean the mainstream representation of gay culture. What is it about gay culture that makes you feel excluded? And when you say gay culture, what is it that you mean? GROSS: So that was an interview from 'PAUSE With Sam Jay.' So, Sam, you said you don't really feel gay 'cause what gay culture is doesn't seem to have anything to do with you. So I was like, I don't know I just like and hanging out with my homies 'cause I don't really know what the hell that is, right? And when that is happening, how does a culture or group really grow? As a Black person, a lot of times I'm like, yo, I don't even feel gay, right? Because what gay culture is feels like. Understand what's wrong with what they're saying. Whereas a white ear that doesn't know how we play may hear that very same thing and go, oh, this person needs to be educated this person doesn't quite. I'd be like, all right, man, you're being silly, or you're being funny. JAY: I know how play, right? So if I hear something, I won't go like, oh, man, that's hella homophobic, or you're a bad dude. UNIDENTIFIED PERSON: As uniquely homophobic as what other community? JAY: Do you think that the Black community is uniquely homophobic? (SOUNDBITE OF TV SHOW, 'PAUSE WITH SAM JAY') And in this interview, you're talking about how, as a Black lesbian, you don't really relate to what's considered, like, the gay community. She is a white woman who's wearing a men's suit. And you're talking to a woman who was formerly in GLAAD, the LGBTQ advocacy group. And you're talking to someone - I should add, in addition to the house party aspect, you do interviews on each episode and a sketch as well. GROSS: So I want to play a clip from the current season, Season 2 of 'PAUSE,' and this is from the first episode. So I guess for that reason, yeah, it's not really hard for me to not agree with someone's perspective but be fine with them as a person. And it's a very (laughter) - it's just a very, like, argumentative space, comedy. Probably because I'm a comic and we spend a lot of time yelling at each other and disagreeing. GROSS: Do you find it easy to disagree with friends without your friend or you taking the disagreement personally? Like, what if you could take all the stuff you argue about at a house party and actually go out in the world and find out if these things that you're standing on and saying are true or false or what your assumptions are of what people in these situations feel like? What if you could go out in the world and actually talk to the people that are going through it and have conversations with them to kind of see if you were wrong or right?

But I guess I would say it's a drunken house party where you get to soberly go out and, like, prove your point afterwards, is kind of how I always looked at it. That's always tough 'cause it's not - it's a weird show. So how would you describe your show to someone who's never seen it?

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She joined 'SNL' in 2017 and left to co-create 'PAUSE.' She also co-created and co-stars in the series 'Bust Down,' along with Chris Redd, who she worked with on 'SNL.' Her latest stand-up special, '3 In The Morning,' is streaming on Netflix. Season 2 is in progress.Д«efore 'PAUSE,' Sam Jay was a writer on 'Saturday Night Live,' where her sketches included Black Jeopardy, including the sketches with Chadwick Boseman in his 'Black Panther' role as T'Challa and Eddie Murphy as his character Velvet Jones. Last week, she talked about how her brother's life was changed by being in prison. They have lively talks about subjects like queer culture, relationships, Black conservatives, money and power and racism and tribalism in America. Her show 'PAUSE' is kind of like a house party, with Sam Jay as the host and her actual friends, fellow comics and TV writers as her guests. My guest, Sam Jay, is a comic, writer and actor who has her own series on HBO called 'PAUSE With Sam Jay.' A lot of her comedy relates to being a Black masculine-of-center lesbian who didn't come out until her early 20s.

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